Kukumana ndi Cyril, Wopanga UX-UI ku UX Republic.

Cyril ali ndi malingaliro chikwi chimodzi pamphindikati!
Technophile pamtima, jack-of-all-trades amakwaniritsa zolinga zatsiku ndi tsiku ndipo amapita patsogolo kuposa momwe amayembekezera! Mutha kulankhula naye za chilichonse, mukufuna kudziwa zomwe (ndi zomwe) zimamuzungulira tsiku ndi tsiku, pa ntchito komanso ku bungwe. Tiyenera kukumbukira kuti amasonkhanitsa alangizi a UX Republic mozungulira iye panthawi yowunikira ndi kugawana nawo. Great autodidact, chinthu chomwe sadziwa sichidzatha kumuwopseza, m'malo mwake! Adzalimbikira kumvetsetsa ndi kuphunzira.

Ndikukupemphani kuti muzindikire kusintha kwathu pa ntchito yake, ntchito yake yamakono ndi zomwe amakonda.

Moni Cyril, mutha kufotokoza zakumbuyo kwanu m'mawu ochepa?

Ndili ndi mbiri yocheperako chifukwa ndangomaliza kumene zaka ziwiri zamaphunziro a ntchito ku French maiko osiyanasiyana m'gawo lamadzi. Ndinali mu Innovation Lab. Chochitika cholemeretsa chifukwa ndidatha kuyesa ndikuphunzira zinthu zambiri m'magulu.

Njira (Agile, UX, Design Thinking ndi ena) zinali zatsopano m'gulu lawo. Chifukwa chake zidandilola kuti ndisinthe ndikuzindikira malingaliro onsewa.

Kodi mudayambitsa pulogalamu yanu yophunzirira ntchito ndi UX Republic?

Ndidaganiza kuti ndipitiliza koma adayimitsa ntchito panthawi yamavuto azaumoyo. Chifukwa chake ndidapuma kwa miyezi 6 zomwe zidandilola kutanthauziranso ntchito za moyo wanga. Ndiyeno, mu Seputembala 2021, ndidalowa nawo magulu a UX Republic.

Kuyambira pomwe mudafika ku UX Republic, ntchito zanu zakhala zotani?

Ndakhala ndikugwira ntchito m'bungwe lachitetezo ndi chitsimikizo kuyambira nditafika ku bungweli.

Ndili ndi mafunso ambiri okhudza ntchito yanu, titha kubweranso kwa iwo nthawi ina. Izi zisanachitike, mungadzifotokoze bwanji mwaukadaulo?

Ndine wokongola manja pa. Ndilibe UX kapena UI yoyimitsidwa. Muyenera kudziwa kuti ndisanagwire ntchito yomanga, ndidapanga zonse zapaintaneti komanso zamakampani, makamaka kumapeto.

Ndipo ngakhale lero izi ndizinthu zomwe zimandisangalatsa. Ndinachita maphunziro a Angular ndipo ndikukonzekera kuphunzitsa pa Vue.js posachedwa.

Ndimakonda phukusi lonse. Izi ndi zomwe zidandisangalatsa mu UX Design. Nditapeza UX, zaka zinayi kapena zisanu zapitazo, ndinazindikira kuti panali mbali zonse zokongola, mbali yachitukuko, kayendetsedwe ka polojekiti ndi Human kumtunda. Ndi dziko lonse lapansi lomwe limandisangalatsa ndipo ndichifukwa chake ndinasankha njira iyi, ngakhale pamapeto pake, ndimachita chitukuko chochepa kwambiri.

Ndi njira yanji yomwe mudadutsamo kuti mukhale ndi masomphenya awa? Kodi maphunziro apamwamba munachita chiyani?

Pambuyo pa baccalaureate yanga yamagetsi, ndidachita chaka choyamba cha BTS yamagetsi kupanga makhadi osindikizidwa, mwachitsanzo, makompyuta.

Koma ndinazindikira mwamsanga kuti sindimakonda choncho ndinasankha kusiya. Ndinachita digiri ya chinenero (Chingerezi, Dutch ndi Spanish).

Tsiku lina, pofotokozera Chisipanishi pamutu wa intaneti, ndidachita kafukufuku ndipo ndidapeza tsamba la ziro. Ndipamene ndinayesa chitukuko cha intaneti.

Mukuyika manja anu mu code monga akunena?

M’chenicheni, ndinazindikira mwamsanga kuti ndinali nditasokera pamalo a ziro ndi kuti ndinali nditaimitsatu ulaliki wotchuka wa Chispanya umenewu! Ndinatukuka, ndatukuka, ndatukuka!

Mwadzidzidzi, ndinayimitsa laisensi yanga ndipo ndinapita ku chitukuko cha intaneti cha BTS ndi mafakitale (onse a intaneti ndi maukonde, VoIP, ma seva okonzekera ndi makina enieni, etc.).

Ndinawona chitukuko chambiri. Kutsogolo (HTML, CSS, JS, JQuery) ndi kumbuyo (C, C #, C++, ...) chitukuko.

 

Kodi munali kale ndi zokonda za chitukuko cha intaneti?

Inde mwachangu chifukwa zinali zowoneka bwino kwambiri. Koma ndinali bwino ndikukhalabe padziko lonse lapansi ndikuwona zinthu zambiri zosiyanasiyana.

Ndinachita internship ya masabata a 6 komwe ndimatha kuchita chitukuko, makampani ndi intaneti. Ndinayenera kupanga netiweki. Zinatsimikizira kusankha kwanga.

Ndikapeza china chake chomwe ndimakonda, ndimavutika kwa miyezi ingapo mpaka ndikhutitsa muubongo wanga ndiyeno ndikufuna kupita patsogolo. Ndine munthu wotopa msanga!

Kodi mumamva kuti mwapita njira yonseyo ndipo muyenera kutembenukira ku UX?

Tsopano popeza ndidadziwa pang'ono zachitukuko, ndidafuna kupita kuzinthu zina zokongola (mawebusayiti, zojambula zojambula, kupanga ma logo, ndi zina).

Ndinalowa mu Web International School ku Lille kuti ndichite digiri ya Bachelor. Ndinapeza CX ndipo ndinathanso kuchita maphunziro oyankhulana, malonda, kayendetsedwe ka mavuto ndi kayendetsedwe ka polojekiti. Ndipo panalinso maphunziro a chitukuko (Angular ndi Symfony mwachitsanzo). Anali maphunziro a CX omwe adandisangalatsa kwambiri.

Kenako, ndinachita digiri ya Master pa IESA Multimedia ku Paris, ndi pulogalamu yophunzirira ntchito kwa zaka ziwiri. Kukhala ndi tsiku limodzi la sukulu pamlungu motsutsana ndi masiku 4 kuntchito kunandilimbikitsa.

Ndi chiyani chomwe mumakonda kwambiri, tsiku lililonse, pantchito yanu?

Kukonzekera kwamagulu, kugwirizanitsa ndi kukhazikitsa mizati. Ndinagwira ntchito ndekhandekha kuti ndiwonjezere zokolola zanga ndikupewa kuwononga nthawi m'masiku anga.

Pa ntchito yanga yapitayi, panali mipata yolumikizana, zida ndi bungwe. Ndipo mwadzidzidzi, ndidatha kunena zinthu ndikutengera zosinthazi nditafika.

Masabata angapo apitawa, tonse tidakambirana za zomwe mukufuna kukonza magawo ogawana nawo mkati mwa UX Republic, kugawana njira zathu ndi njira zathu zadongosolo. Muli kuti ndi polojekitiyi?

Ndikufuna kupanga ngati mafuko ku UX Republic okhala ndi mtanda malinga ndi chidziwitso cha aliyense. Ndipo motero, lolani aliyense kuti alumikizane ndi katswiri pamunda.

Mumagawana nafe zomwe mumakonda gawo lonse la bungwe, kodi mumatsogoleranso zokambirana zopangana?

 

Kumayambiriro kwa ntchito yanga, tidagwira ntchito kwambiri pa "kupambana mwachangu" kotero ndidakhazikitsa ma workshop a "Crazy 8" sabata iliyonse. Izi ndi zokambirana zomwe zidatilola kugwira ntchito pazinthu zenizeni ndikupereka malingaliro athu.

Koma ndizowona kuti ndimakhala m'bungwe komanso m'ndondomeko m'malo mopanga makanema ndi kubwezeretsanso ma workshop.

Kodi pali wina amene amakulimbikitsani tsiku ndi tsiku kuti mupange ndikupereka njira zabwino zogwirira ntchito?

Ndinawerenga buku la Creativity.INC komwe timauzidwa zinsinsi za kupambana kwa woyambitsa Pixar, Ed Catmull.

Amatifotokozera kuti ankafuna kupanga filimu yowonekera 100% kuyambira ali wamng'ono kwambiri. Ndipo Toy Story idatuluka. Pambuyo pa izi, akunena kuti wakwaniritsa cholinga cha moyo ndikudzifunsa funso lakuti "nditani tsopano?".

Wasintha kampani ya Pixar kukhala malo opangira zinthu komwe amatsagana ndi anthu kuti apange mlengalenga wawo. Ndipo ngakhale kukongoletsa konse kunatenganso chilengedwe cha mafilimu. Dzikhazikitseni mumkhalidwe wokwanira kuti mutuluke pang'ono pantchito koma mukhale opindulitsa.

Ichi ndi chinthu chomwe ndikuganiza kuti ndi chofunikira kwambiri koma chonyalanyazidwa kwambiri.

Kodi munganene kuti mukufunikira malo ena kuti mugwire ntchito ndikuchita zambiri?

Zimapereka kuyandikira mukamagwira ntchito m'malo ngati Pixar. Ndikufuna malo osiyana pang'ono, osakhala mwachisawawa. Ndikuwona kuti ikugwira ntchito bwino.

Ndi chiyani chinakupangitsani kufuna kulowa UX Republic?

Ndi lonse ndipo nthawi yomweyo ndi mwayi. Nditapeza UX, ndidaphunzira zambiri kuchokera ku mabulogu a UX Republic ndipo ndidagula Makhadi a UX. Ndipo kotero ine ndinali ndi bungwe mu malingaliro.

Pamene ndinayamba pulogalamu yanga yophunzirira ntchito, tinali kufunafuna maphunziro ndipo tinayamba kufunafuna malo ophunzitsira. Monga ndimadziwa kale UX Republic, nthawi yomweyo ndinapempha bungwe kumagulu.
Chifukwa chake tidatenga maphunziro omwe adayenda bwino kwambiri pa UX Design and Design Thinking. Kuphunzitsa ndi polojekiti yathu komanso bungwe ngati ulusi wofiira.

Nthawi inadutsa ndipo maguluwo adandilumikizana kudzera pa Linkedin.

Ndiye tingakambirane za msonkhano wabwino?

Ndi bungwe lodziwika bwino lomwe lili ndi chithunzi chabwino ndipo ndidachita chidwi ndi matimu panthawi yamaphunziro komanso pomwe ndidakhala ndi zokambirana.

Kodi timakhala bwanji ndi maphunziro ndikulowa mdziko lantchito panthawi yamavuto azaumoyo padziko lonse lapansi?

Pa maphunziro anga, ndinali ndi ntchito zambiri m'maganizo! Ndinkafuna kuyenda ndikukulitsa chidwi changa chojambula ndikugwira ntchito ndi macbook anga kumapeto kwa dziko. Ndinadziuza ndekha kuti kuchoka kwa chaka kukhoza kundilola kuwona zinthu zambiri zatsopano ndikusintha.

Covid idafika ndipo ma projekiti onsewa adaletsedwa. Chifukwa chake, ndidalembetsa maphunziro ambiri, ndidachita dzulo, ndidapeza zida, ...

Ndipo nditatha kufunsa mafunso ambiri ndikukulitsa chidziwitso chonsecho, ndidapeza mwayi ku UX Republic.

Chiyambireni kusinthanitsa kwathu, mumalankhula nafe zambiri za zida ndi kuwunika, ndikusintha kwabwino kuti mulankhule za zomwe mwachita kuti mupange gulu loyang'anira mkati mwa UX Republic.

Munapeza bwanji lingaliro limeneli?

Ndikalowa kukampani, sindibwera kudzagwira ntchito yanga ndipo ndi momwemo. Ndiyenera kupanga ulalo ndi anzanga.

Chida ndi kugawana kwatsiku lapitalo, ndimaganiza kuti zidalipo kale ku UX Republic (kudzera masiku a UX, kukumana, ...) koma sizinali choncho.

Ndinaphonya mphindi izi zogawana koma m'malo mongokhala chete ndikudikirira kuti ibwerere, ndidakonda kuyambitsa chochitika chatsopano chomwe chingalankhule ndi aliyense.

Ngati tilankhula pang'ono za ntchito yanu, mungatifotokozere zomwe mukugwira ntchito?

Pagulu ili la zitsimikiziro ndi zotsimikizira, pali masamba angapo. Kwa ine, ndikugwira ntchito yokonzanso malo omwe amaphatikizapo malo ena onse.

Posachedwapa tikhala tikuyambitsa kafukufuku wa ogwiritsa ntchito kuti tidziwe momwe ogwiritsa ntchito angapezere mayankho a mafunso awo paokha.

Pa nthawi yomweyi, pali ntchito yokhazikika yokhazikika. Timagwira ntchito, chifukwa cha Design System, pakupambana mwachangu.

Ndipo ponena za bungwe?

Ndinawonjezera ntchitoyi kwa ine ndekha kuti ndikonze ndi kuthetsa mavuto a bungwe. Timayesetsa kuti gulu likhale losavuta (chifukwa cha tanthawuzo la maudindo, zikondwerero, ndi zina zotero) ndikukhazikitsa malipoti pamisonkhano ndi zomwe zikuyembekezeka.

Kuchokera pamawonekedwe apangidwe, ndi njira yanji yopangira yomwe mumagwira nayo ntchito?

Izi zikadali zokambirana zomwe zikuchitika.
Ndidawakonzera kufananiza kwa njira malinga ndi zosowa (magulu, zida, zabwino ndi zoyipa) komanso cholinga cha polojekitiyi.

Kodi mungadziyerekezere nokha mu nthawi yayitali mkati mwa ntchito iyi?

Kwenikweni, monga ndimakuuzani, ndimatopa mwachangu koma ndi kasitomala wanga, pamapeto pake, ayi.

Mutha kunena kuti ndili ndi mamishoni angapo mkati mwa ntchito yanga. Ndipo ndili ndi carte blanche kuti ndisinthe ndikupereka zinthu zambiri.

Ngati mawa ntchito yanu itatha, ndi gawo liti lomwe lingasangalatse inu?

Sindiyika fyuluta iliyonse pamutuwu, komabe ngati ndingathe kusankha, ndikufuna kubwerera ku Innovation Lab monga panthawi ya pulogalamu yanga yophunzirira.

Mu Labu, mumakhala mpweya wabwino ndipo timafalikira pamitu yambiri ndipo ndizomwe ndimakonda!

Cyril, tatsala pang'ono kumaliza kusinthana kwathu. Tili ndi mafunso angapo okhudza zomwe mumakonda kuposa zomwe mumakumana nazo.

Mwachitsanzo, choyamba, kodi mumakonda kupanga UX, kapangidwe ka UI, Kafukufuku wa Wogwiritsa, chitukuko?

Ndinganene UI Design.

Kodi mumakonda iOS kapena Android?

Android, ndine katswiri wa Google!
Komanso, mukabwera kwathu, ali paliponse! Nest audio, Nest wifi, makamera, Pixel 5, ma routers, ...). Ndili ndi Google Store yonse!

Kodi mumamasukanso ndi malangizo a Google ndi ergonomics?

Inde. Koma, poyerekeza ndi Apple, ndi masomphenya mankhwala. Apple ikatulutsa chinthu chilichonse chimakhala choyera komanso chabwino. Koma zomwe ndimakonda kwambiri za Google ndi momwe zinthuzo zimagwirira ntchito limodzi, padziko lonse lapansi.

Pamene mukugwira ntchito, kodi mumakonda kumvetsera nyimbo kapena kuonera mavidiyo?

Ambiri, nyimbo zambiri, malingana ndi maganizo. Ndipo pakali pano, ndikusintha pazotsatira zonse zakumbuyo.

Kodi muli ndi buku, filimu kapena zolemba pa digito zomwe mungatipangire?

Kanema wa Snowden (palinso zolemba). Tikukamba za wothandizira Edward Snowden yemwe ankagwira ntchito ku NSA ndipo adasokoneza dongosolo la kusonkhanitsa zidziwitso ku United States.

Cyril, tamaliza zokambirana zathu, zikomo chifukwa chotenga nthawi yanu kutigawana nafe ulendo wanu. Tisananyamuke, kodi mukufuna kuwonjezera zina zomwe sitinafotokoze?

Mu Epulo, ndinatsogolera UX Republic Masterclass pa chida cha Notion. Khalani tcheru kudzakumana ndi External Meetup pamutuwu!

 

 


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Alexa Cuellar, Wopanga UX @UX-Republic

 


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